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George Ingram the Third: Does He Google Himself?Update #5: Here is my latest write-up on the continuing saga of George Warren Ingram III. Update #4: George Ingram himself appears to have spammed the comment board for this article. Update #3: A new comment has been left that attempts to pretend to be written by the author of this website. I have flagged this comment as untrustworthy and have not deleted it so that people can see the lengths that frauds and hucksters will go to in order to further their criminal ambitions. Interestingly, it's likely that the person who left this comment was likely GEORGE INGRAM HIMSELF - the e-mail attached to this fraud of a comment is gx.ingram@georgeingram.net Apparently he IS Googling himself, and attempting to do damage control. Update #2: You have to read the comments section! This guy is over-the-top, and all sorts are coming out of the woodwork to leave their two cents. Update: when read in the context of the rest of the story, this article at the Sealy News is very interesting, amusing, and illuminating. it starts innocently enoughToday while eating my lunch, I was idly reading a New York Times article regarding our love of air travel and against my lack of better judgment I began digging into the comments section. One in particular caught my eye. I think I noticed it simply because of the enumerated name that comprised its signature. It was by one George Ingram the Third. He happened to sign his message like so: Googling someone for no good reasonFor no good reason, I decided to perform a google search on his name. The first result was some site about an operatic tenor. Obviously this was not our George Ingram. Our George Ingram has a distinct businessman tone; he's been flying on airplanes for thirty-plus years and knows just how much it sucks. From his comment (in regards to air travel):
The second result for George Ingram III was total pay dirt! This has got to be the guy.
That's gotta be him. He is a distinguished international businessman and also a respected contributor to the military-industrial complex. Looks like we really found a stand-up guy here. Check out the picture and his poo-eating grin! I wanted to draw an arrow towards his mouth with the message 'POO GOES HERE' on the picture, but I restrained myself. ![]() What next for George Ingram III?Then we get to the third search result. I was totally floored by this one. Wanted by U.S. marshals - George Warren INGRAM III (Apprehended). WHAT?! What's the chances that I pick someone with such an interesting Google?1 Included in that PDF link is a mugshot of Mr. Ingram. Exact same guy that is a distinguished engineer and businessman apparently was apprehended by the US Marshals. At first I thought this PDF mugshot was a joke. The poses and smiles in the two pictures are exactly the same, and it's not hard to imagine that the mugshot was just an altered version of the first photograph.
Pure internet gold! I'm pretty sure this is all the same guy, and I just happened to Google someone with a distinctive name that happened to leave their real name in a comment on a New York Times op-ed article. So what's George Ingram III's deal anyways?The best I've been able to find regarding the whole thing is an excerpt of an article from Plastics News, titled Ex-PureTex chief fighting extradition. (PureTex Water Corp.)(George Warren Ingram III) that you can buy from a few different places, but I'm not about to buy the article. I don't have enough invested in this guy. Here's the excerpt, which fills in the basics when combined with the 'WANTED' poster from the U.S. Marshals.
So basically we can assume this guy ran out of money to back his water bottling plant in Texas, which according to the PureTex website was to be the "WORLD's LARGEST BOTTLED WATER PLANT". Well apparently he fled to Lincoln, IL after stealing up to $20k worth of services. I assume he just stopped paying the guys who were building his plant. Shame. can you trust a Republican?Amusingly, he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Distinction on September 24, 2006. He was apprehended by U.S. Marshals on December 22, 2006 - just three months later. They had to bust his door down because he wouldn't come out! It's probably kind of stupid to add resisting arrest to your charges if all you got is $20k worth of service theft. This guy is supposed to be an intelligent and respectful member of the military-industrial community complex, but he can't even not resist arrest when he's not really facing that big a charge? This is after he makes a federal crime out of the whole thing because he had to be a jerk-off and cross state lines. Of course, I'm sure he has good lawyers. Seems like the Congressional Medal of Distinction from the Republican Party is pretty hollow.
Just three months before he's apprehended by U.S. Marshals! It doesn't get any better than that. It's too bad, because the bottled water plant would have created 380 sustainable jobs apparently. Amusingly, from the same article: American PureTex Water Corporation is a privately held concern owned by natural resource conservationists that understand the long term importance of safe clean high quality drinking water. Wow that's even better. If this guy was really a community leader and he really wants to help people, he would realize that bottled water is ultimately a wasteful pursuit. If the money spent on bottled water went into managing our water supplies, it'd start being the bottled water that's bad for you. As it is, only the minimum amount of water treatment is performed in this country. Maybe he should use his politico-industrial clout to tighten up water treatment standards. Nah, that's too sensible, and he's gotta make a living for chrissake! You gotta wonder, does he Google himself?
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Enjoyed your speculations about Ingram
The US Marshall's press release speaks for itself about this guy. Do you think a government agency would publish something like that if they were not sure of their facts.
Ingram is now under house arrest in the San Antonio, Texas area.
I would like to know exactly where so I can collect on a court judgement against him
What follows is a copy of the news report in Ingam's house arrest and link to the story itself.
Best Regards,
VOG
House Arrest Chosen in Probation Case
Web Posted: 08/13/2007 10:41 PM CDT
Express-News
Despite a dramatic arrest and Taser use by federal marshals in Illinois, and 101 days in jail, George
Warren Ingram III did not have his probation revoked Monday.
In a hearing before 186th District Judge Maria Teresa Herr, Ingram pleaded "not true" to the allegations
that he violated his probation by going to another state without permission.
His lawyer, Roy Barrera Sr., said Ingram did leave the state, but thought at the time that his probation
was finished.
A jury convicted Ingram in 2003 of theft of service for writing a bad $10,000 check to an accountant.
His business ventures include unrealized plans to build a massive water bottling plant in Southeast
Texas and an attempted joint venture to run Ecuador's state-owned oil company.
In a 2002 bankruptcy filing, he claimed more than $100 million in assets. That case was dismissed in
2003 because Ingram failed to pay $40,000 in fees.
The judge asked Barrera if Ingram preferred that his probation be revoked or to agree to stay in San
Antonio under house arrest, and Ingram chose house arrest, once he gets out of jail.
Online at: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/crime/stories/MYSA081407.housearrest.e-...
good stuff
thanks for filling in the blanks!
his shit-eating grin is now even more malicious
good luck on collecting your judgement
I too was a victim of this snake and I know others...
This guy is a serious liar and he cheated me out of thousands of dollars in 2001-2002. He told me he graduated from UT-Austin with dual engineering degrees. Lie! He told me his middle initial was "x". Lie! He told me in 2000 he was worth $1.2 billion. Lie! I knew when he suddenly packed up from Texas and moved to Georgia, he was running from something. This guy is very smart though and is an information technology wizard. He calls himself a project manager, architect and whatever else people will believe. I told me he predicted 9/11. I mean this guy has a serious mental problem and anyone who gives him an award is an idiot. But it does give me new confidence in the justice system because what goes around comes around.
wow
georgey boy is something else ain't he?
he predicted 9-11! ahahaha
Ingram is in jail now - again
George was sentence to serve 14 months in a Texas jail on October 9, 2008 after a judge there revoked his probation.
A jury in San Antonio, Texas, had convicted him in October 2003 for fraudulently issuing a $10,000 check on an account with insufficient funds. This is in relation to the Felony Theft of Services incident mentioned above.
To quote James Ishimoto, assistant criminal Bexar County district attorney in San Antonio, "he will be a guest at a state jail facility in Texas for the next 14 months or so."
Texas tax dollars well spent.
Ingram's prison status and details
SID Number: 03814552
TDCJ Number: 01532559
Name: INGRAM,GEORGE WARREN
Race: W
Sex: M
Age: 60
Maximum Sentence Date: 2010-02-02
Current Facility: DOMINGUEZ
Projected Release Date: 2010-02-02
Parole Eligibility Date: NOT AVAILABLE
The Truth
Truth Is Dead
How could anyone read such stories and think that truth does not matter? Yet we in the West are in a crazy time when many live as if truth does not matter, and many even claim there is no such thing as truth. The technical term for this philosophy is postmodernism, a loose grab bag of ideas whose central theme is that we can no longer believe in traditional ideas of objective truth.
At best, these people say, all truth claims are said to be relative. They depend on our perspective, and where we are coming from—we all see things differently according to our gender, age, race, and class. At worst, there is no such thing as truth, because what we call “truth” is really a disguised bid for power. Our challenge, they tell us, is not to worry about the truth or falsity of anything, but to figure out each person’s “agenda” and “where he is coming from.”
Truth Matters
Isn’t truth an issue for philosophers to settle, and irrelevant to the rest of us? Not at all. Truth can certainly be discussed at head-spinning levels. But just as war is too important to be left to the generals, so truth is too important to be left to the philosophers. And the arguments for taking truth seriously are urgent and very practical.
As said Os Guinness is the author of The Case for Civility: And Why Our Future Depends on It (HarperOne, 2008)
IT'S TRUE - HE IS A TOTAL CON ARTIST CRIMINAL and NUTS
While I cannot elaborate here, it is completely true that George Warren Ingram III is a total anti-american swindler con artist worthless LIAR criminal. He fakes companies and gets "Honest" folks blinded with excitement about making money and uses that to give body to a fake business so he can swindle others/investors and business(s) out of their money and services and I think partly so it can inflate his rediculous ego. Trust me - HE IS a severe liar and in REALITY NOT an information tech genious. HE's actually an idiot - but most of the time he goes unchallenged because of the blinding they get for the possiblity of making money. When challenged on most anything, he falls apart but usually with some good story that sounds plausable so you have to challenge the challenge over and over to get to his empty suit reality. This guy is truely a dirt ball in the truest sense. He's the kind of swindler that gives America a bad name internationally!!!!! He does not even know how to pronounce SKYPE - he calls it as a two syllable word ie "Sky Pee". Again he is a complete fake. NEVER trust anything he says!!!!
Would like to talk with you "Shame full"
This note about GWI3 has has surface someone I would like to make contact with. How can we get in touch?
Sincerly,
VOG
George Warren Ingram the Third
Now my father is a much better man then you. You've met me and my older sister and you ruined pur lives, You stole just over 2.2 million dollars from my family. For those who are reading ple undertand the money was not just lying around. We had to borrrow money from faimily I had to drop out of college and our house is in forclosure! God save your soul
While I am not sure how I
While I am not sure how I found this, I am shocked. George's charlatanry effectively destroyed my family by sending my father on a mis-guided quest for "loads of money". The results of this financial debacle cost my family serious financial strain, public embarassment, and most importantly a broken home. I did not know that others have shared similar stories. I believe our family were the last victim(s) before George's arrest. It is cathartic to read other people's encounters with him and know that this was is verifiable. Thanks, guys.
Info - George Ingram
Need some details, how can I contact, Truth Seeker
this comment is tied to George Ingram's e-mail address -mhjacks
George
George is live and well and well fed.
I just had a 4 hour lunch with him in downtown Chicago. I was following up on a lead to sell Global Intelligence software.
His stories were riveting and very compelling. I was blown away at the attention to detail, name dropping of industry players, Geo-Political knowledge and technical prowess.
It was surreal... then a colleague did a Google to find out more about him……. and she sure did. What an amazing, twisted and elaborate imagination this guy has in his head.
No software, but he did get a free lunch at a nice French restaurant.
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fascinating
to wonder at all the people that have been touched by strands of George's web is something else
thanks for the update on his whereabouts
Your Post - George Ingram
How can I get in touch with you? I would like to talk to you!
this comment is tied to George Ingram's e-mail address -mhjacks
He is in Nashville
I just had lunch him today at the Grace Mansion, he was trying to sell me on a song he wrote, Elvis
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Your Posting - George Ingram
I would like to contact you, how do I speak to you? Truth Seeker
this comment is tied to George Ingram's e-mail address -mhjacks
How do I get in contact with you
Did you have intimate relations with George Ingram III, let me know how to contact you, Seeker of the Truth
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Need to Know more - Who are You!
I found your posting interesting can you tell me who you are? Truth Seeker
this comment is tied to George Ingram's e-mail address -mhjacks
I was Wrong about George!
This comment is not to be trusted. Please notice the 'mhjacks2' signature at the bottom, which attempts to pretend to be the author of this website (I added the 'possibly George himself'). I'd delete it, but pure BS like this should be left as a warning to all others. Frauds and hucksters abound, and will spread misinformation wherever they can.
this comment is also tied to George Ingram's e-mail address: gx.ingram@georgeingram.net
-mhjacks
Here is what I found out to be true, a Newspaper man gave me this that was published in 2007...
Questions and Answers by George Ingram III founder of American PureTex Water Corporation:
1. It has been reported and there is a web site to the affect that you were arrested over the Christmas holiday period, is this true?
Yes, these are false pretense charges, I was not a fugitive and I have prepared a legal response against San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas & the State of Texas.
2. What are the circumstances that led up to the arrest?
In 1999 I brought a legal malpractice case lawsuit against the now defunct Law firm, Butter Binion, LLP in Houston, on none counts of legal malpractice. That case wound around Texas, New York, California, China, and Korean, it was originated by me principally to protect my personal fortune, as the attorneys involved were abusing their durable power of attorney related to my estate plan they wrote putting them in charge of my assets. My will was eventually re-written by the Baker Botts law firm to protect my family.
In the process of litigating the International portion of my claims, we wound up in an International Arbitration administered in New York, and at the same time the defendant law firm was creating ancillary cases in Texas, to one distract the public perception that they we innocent of the many malpractice claims against them myself and other, and to raise my litigation expense to carry on. One of the thing a victim must do in litigation is produce expert witnesses to prove how he or she was damaged. In 2000, an accounting firm Hanke, Green, & Stein in San Antonio was recommended by the now defunct accounting firm of Arthur Anderson in Houston, and I sought to retain that firm as expert witness in the International Arbitration to testify on behalf of Ingram Investore, LLC my co-Plaintiff. The accounting firmed showed up for the deposition in Houston, and testified that he was not an expert, and he did not know how his $55 Million dollar numbers on the companies damages were different than all other estimates of damages related to an Foreign exchange hedge with Wells Fargo Bank that was to transact in 1998. At that point we decided since he was not an expert, and we did not get the benefit of our bargain, that we would not pay him for the services he could not perform. Mr. Dan Hanke, had substituted a junior accountant for himself because he was to busy.
After that happened it was clear that Hanke was open to an accounting malpractice suit from Ingram Investore, LLC, and sought to bring a criminal complaint against George Warren Ingram, individually as his defense. It is interesting to note, that the same professional liability insurance company insured both Hanke, Green, & Stein, and Butler Binion, LLP, and that the $55 million was the threshold insurance coverage for the first tier of coverage, our damages were $285 million for all claims, and $218 million just for the Botched FX Exchange Transaction.
The rest is history, all other claims have been litigated to finality, and it has been a very tough 8 years. I was forced to him the $10,000 he was claiming under judicial pressure, but I expect to have that return to me at the end of this saga.
Before Butler Binon, LLP, I personally had no litigation for 15 years prior to when I hired them.
3. You noted that emails and letter writing campaigns are being waged against you and your companies, what are these about? In Texas the anonymous Letters and faxes are against me primarily but refer to a PureTex Water and its parent APWC that I founded in 1974 and in which I owe shares. Apparently they seek to discredit the company because of the San Antonio, Texas illegal arrest.
4. Is there any connection to your legal issues and APWC? No APWC is a run independently by Executives and a Board of Directors. And I am personally a not major shareholder.
5. How do you plan to fight the arrest and legal challenges?
The arrest was illegal, and I have retained legal counsel in my home state an also in Texas to counter these malicious charges and defend myself, other than that, what else can I do?
6. Are there any other legal actions going on that may come forward? There is one legal actions involving one former employee that were discharged for cause in APWC. He has filed a wage claim but has perjured himself, and his friend also filed a wage claim in Texas, but the APWC records shows he did not perform work for the company in Texas as a Texas employee There are no other suits or activities I am aware.
7. Are there any other past legal issues you have been involved in? I am an international business man with a lot of interests around the world. From time to time there are legal issues the come from conducting business in many countries, but today as far as I know today, there is no outstanding litigation.
8. What is the status of your business start up PureTex Water Works at APWC: A shareholders meeting occurred on January 17, 2007 and the company is currently in the due diligence process with several investment banking houses in New York to guide the company through the process place private equity funding of $500mm to construct two bottle water facilities in South Texas. Nineteen APWC shareholders attended that meeting and ratified the Restated Articles of Incorporation of the company on file at the Texas Secretary of State Office, and the structure of the financing that the company representatives are presenting to the investment bankers.
9. Anything else you would like to add? APWC was formed to develop its unique position that it holds to provide safe clean pure drinking to people. It is an agricultural food product, and we can by bottling it provide the daily necessity to millions of people without pumping large volumes of water that is principally wasted. At the same time at the company in the years of 2002, 2003, 2004 ,2005, and 2006 dicussed these matter with our neighbors and concluded that what we should be doing is producing pure clean drinking water only, and not allow our resources to be wasted by pipelining water to cities to be used as waste water and industrial use, and lost in their system . Bottling it is the only way we see that we can insure what we do goes directly to human consumption, what APWC has is to valuable to waste.
MHjacks is a idiot
Hi, my name is Denis Robinson, I used to work for Ed Bahl, (former President of Global Intelligence, and now President of TechConnectUSA.com, it turns out that Mr. Bahl and his group were the frauds, which I learned only to late, I followed Mr. Bahl, beucase he was doing nasty things like creating this blog to diss Ingram, beware of Edward C. Bahl, he is trouble.... Denis
This commenter is also likely to be George himself, although it is not tied to George's e-mail address, it is tied to an e-mail address from George's failed Global Intelligence Corporation. - mhjacks
Ingram, Robinson, who to trust?
Don't trust any of these guys. I had no freaking clue who George Ingram was until I started Googling him, and his story is plain to see. It requires no special effort to realize that George Ingram is a fraud and a con artist.
I would not be surprised if nefarious George was aided and abetted by numerous other con artists.
I am Edward C. Bahl and created this blog to diss Ingram???? You sir, are an idiot that has no ability to perform due diligence. Ever hear of the domain name registry, or perhaps just clicking other links on this site to see who originated it?
YOu are all
YOu are all crooks...........all ya'll! Dennis, Ed and George........how is that!
You need a new MO George
It is important to point out once again that I did NOT post the above comments. It would appear that George has noting better to do than try to pretend that others are wrong about his evil ways.
I have one thing to say to you George, keep up with your decption, lies and fraud and I will personally hand deliver every document I have on you to the authorities. And I am not talking about Bexar County, TX. This time they go to Washington D.C, and your good friend at the Dept. of Justice.
You really are a piece of work. Give KIm and Nicholas my regards! Oh yea and for those interested George is also a dead beat dad who continues to live in rental properties and then fless without paying the landlord. George, you really opened up Pandora's box this time!
OK tough guy, you know where I live. I'd love for you to come vist me. Dis you know you have an outstanding warrent in Colorado as well? You also have judgements for over $3 million in Colorado. Come vist as Dennis and I and everyone else you royally SCREWED in Colorado would love chat with you. We'll even get you a very resonable rate on a nice room with Bubba!
HA!
If you are Denis, Dennis, or Ed or George, I hope you burn in hell for what you ALL to me and my family! I know Karma will come around and bite you when you least expect it. I have dealt with pain and suffering you put my family and I through..........so enjoy what you have because when day the creator will reap revenge for all the people you have hurt. I believe in balance in this world so we need to have good (me) and evil (you), so because you have taken this evil to high levels, the balance is off and you will suffer my friend! If I were to read your OBIT in the near near future, I wouldn't shed a tear but rejoice that justice has finaly been served!
George W Ingram
My daughter emailed me to state that she had Goggled a negative remark about me made by the convicted felon George Warren Ingram III. I am writing this message today to point out just how far this man will go to blame other for his wrong doing.
First, George W. Ingram posted this comment about me NOT Dennis Robinson. I know Dennis very well and in fact we remain very close friend to this date. Dennis was furious to find out that George Ingram posted this complete lie about me and my character.
To set the record straight I do know the complete story behind George W Ingram and his evil ways. In fact I have a file cabinet full of documents that I kept that prove everything. The bottom line is George is of bad, very bad character. He is not only a convicted felon as attested by the Bexar County DA's office, he is also currently under investigation in the State of Illinois for securities fraud. Imagine that. George Ingram sold two gentlemen I personally know $500,000 of his personal worthless stock in a company know as American Puretex Water Corporation.
I have informed Dennis Robinson of this posting so I am sure he will also respond as well. It is also note worthy that George Ingram currently have over $5 million in personal judgments against him in the states of Colorado, Texas, and Illinois to name a few. He is suppose to be under house arrest in Bexar County as he violated his probation on numerous occasions.
George has comitted fraud on numerous occassions. He has dupped companies like IBM, ING Glarion, GM and many more out of millions. He has even comitted fraud in other countries.
I could go on for pages and pages but I think you get the point. For those of you who would like to verify my story, feel free to contact me by email at edbahl6567@gmail.com. I'm sure I'll receive plenty of email from George Ingram himself claming to be other individuals.
SInce George felt compelled to post a bogus remark about me using Dennis Robinsons name, the GLOVES ARE NOW off. It is time for anyone who cares to hear the truth about this evil man!
The Outlaw Georgie Ingram
I am Dennis Robinson and the previous comments in this blog are not and were not authored by me. This libel and slanderous action to be dealt wiht legally, George Ingram III? These and most of the reponses are from George himself who is a verified habitual liar, crimminally convicted character named George Ingram III. Just ask the judges, probation officers, and legal prosecution in the great state of Texas.
All of these stories of George's theft, destruction of families and finances are true - Global Intelligence Corp (George Ingram III as Chairman and CEO) was found libel with a Final Judgement Order in Denver Colorado owing me personally over $198,000.00. No such software for forecasting and prediction exists! As a follow-up: What billions of dollars in holdings by George would enable mulitiple bankruptcies; living in double or single wide trailers; fugitive from the law; stealing and fabricating glorious visions of making millions while his hand is on your wallet? Nothing but lies, deceit, low-life acquaintances; how many people do any of us know or know a friend that knows anyone with the criminal record, trail of personal destruction of a George Ingram III? He is a leach on people to scam and destroy to fulfill his heartless, pathetic ego! Well no more - you will have to deal with all of us. Beware George as I know where you are!
I was his assistant
I was George Ingram's assistant for one summer in between semesters in college at the Lincoln, IL office. Everything there seemed legitimate to me. I got my paycheck reqularly with taxes taken out.
I actually found out all this stuff after trying to contact him so I could update the references on my resume.
You were a lucky one!
Hello there assistant! I worked with one of his assistants and she worked for him for about 6 months and she didn't have problems until the end! Her checks were legit until all of ours bounced, then hers did as well! Consider yourself lucky, because I had to borrow money to cover the check that bounced and I have a family six..........I hate that guy and I would beat him with bat if only I could find his sorry ass! He is crook so do not put him down as a reference.......... I showed my current boss, who is from Texas, George's picture and he said, "wow he looks like a skezzer" and he said that usually when people put the III at the end of their names, it is usually a farce!
Anyone???
Well I have left a couple comments about all these guys and the crooks that they are but I still have yet to see any reponse from anyone. The creater of this site, George himself, Denis or Ed.........so what it the deal? I know George is total idiot, but the men who follow or followed him are idiots as well......and if he is such criminal then can someone explain to me why he isn't in prison and why he keeps going free? Is our system really that screwed up or does George really have friends in high places? Something I have wondered about for 4 years. What is the deal with this guy? Is obviously stupid but smart enough to not be in prison, WHAT?????
I see you're having difficulty dealing with the subject matter.
To talk about George as 'smart' or 'stupid' misses the point; it doesn't really matter what his IQ happens to be, what's more important is his cunning, which appears to wielded much like that of a predatory animal.
In my most recent follow-up on George Warren Ingram III I explore the possibility that he has anti-social personality disorder; a constellation of 'sociopathic' personality traits.
You have hit the nail on the head with your question of why George is not in prison. If George does possess a clinical diagnosis of anti-social personality disorder (ASPD), he represents a very fascinating subset of the clinical population that possesses these traits. Most individuals that display these traits are studied in prison settings, because that's where they typically end up.
The marked lack of remorse for doing wrong unto others that the psychopath possesses usually leads relatively quickly to violent crimes. It is not fully understood how certain people with ASPD decide to either limit or not engage in violent crimes. Perhaps if this particular population of those with ASPD could be studied more rigorously, we might learn new things about the human brain. Wounding others monetarily rather than physically I would say has much better risk-to-reward ratio in terms of jail-time; perhaps certain people with psychopathic tendencies evaluate these options rationally, but it seems that most are unable to attach much meaning to adverse consequences of their physically violent behavior. This owes partly to what seems like an inability to correctly attach emotional responses to particular events (those with psychopathy are particularly noted for their flat affect).
Thus, I would argue George has stayed out of prison largely because he is unwilling to engage in physically violent crime; these are the types of offenses that quickly lead to prison. That key survival trait mixed with a dash of intelligence and cunning, along with our highly malleable criminal justice system allows individuals like George to range largely unfettered; the only thing that can keep people like that in check is a finely tuned bullshit detector.
also check out this
also check out this link:
http://www.hare.org/links/saturday.html
interesting tidbit from the site:
No problem with subject matter..........
Well mjhacks, I do not believe I am having a problem with subject matter, I am just asking the question. When this incident happened to me I have tried for years to get this guy caught and put in jail and yes I do believe he is a true sociopath. I worked for him and Ed Bahl and Denis Robinson and in my mind I see all of them as this. I was told one lie after another by all of them. I knew something was wrong when his wife, Kim, brought in their "alleged" son and he called both of his parents by their first names. I assumed he was kidnapped but had no proof. Kim herself was very skiddish and anti-social; all the license plates in the truck of his car was another clue; the fact that he told us "for our own protection" to take pictures of everyone who walked through our doors. Yeah, something was screwy. I often wonder if his wife, Kim, is also a sociopath and shares his lust for deceiving people taking their money.......HUMMM??
I have moved on from this situation but I felt like a dumbass for many years because I allowed George, Denis and Ed to take advantage of me.......I hope they all burn in hell. Oh and a side note, on George's excuse of his employees stealing from him, let me set the story straight. The paychecks bounced so if he would have paid the money back to his employees in CASH, then he would have received his stuff back, but he did not and left town so he cannot use that as an excuse. So George if you read this or Ed or Denis or Kim, be sure to get your story straight no one wanted your crappy stuff but we never got paid so when you all go down I will be there to witness it!
Ingram III
I worked for the man over 25 years ago in Houston. He sounds just like the same crook I knew back then.
TEXJOHN -Your the Same guy that sought to steal my phone records
you directed my phone records in 2005 to your self with AT&T which is very illegal, let me know who you are really! probably another Ed Bahl alter-ego
Quit hiding, show yourself
OK after reading your posting I obviously know you. How you can even think that Dennis and I were involved in Ingram's Evil ways is beyond me. If you recall I resigned from GIC in April of 2004. Upon my resignation I wrote everyone a letter stating my reasons for leaving to include the fact that I was no longer comfortable with George Ingrams ways or the fact that the last payroll for GIC had bounced. So if you are R** or Bre** then call me if you'd like to vent or hear the real truth. You know my number as it has not changed in 15 years!
You need to get the facts
Sir or Madam you really need to get the facts before making statments that may come back to haunt you. It is one thing to make comments about George Ingram, which in my opinion are completly justified. However, when you start making false accusations about Dennis and I, I must take issue. You know how to reach me, so unless you have the courage to talk to me personally then i suggest you stop the negative comments abot Dennis and I or any of the others in Colorado that George rpyally screwed!
Yeah right!
Nothing will come back to haunt me because I am not a crook, you on the other hand are sir. If you aren't then why is everything I read about you how you didn't pay someone for services or why do I not read about you and the great things you are doing? If you and Dennis are so worried about what people say then do something to prove otherwise.............................I work with high level people and I never hear your name in business, conversation or otherwise. And please lets set the record straight you never sent a letter to the employees explaining your resignation, it was communicated in a meeting......REMEMBER???? Another thing hate to tell you this but unless I am lying, which I am not, about my negative comments I have a right to say what I need to. You or Dennis or George cannot stop anyone from saying the things that are true. Sad how you come to this page, like George, to see what is being said. I am glad I had the experience I did with all of you, because now I know how to spot a con artist and I do have the guts because if I ever see you, you owe me about $1800 in the paycheck that bounced....with your signature!
You are not only a liar, you are a coward
For someone that makes bold and untrue statements about me and Dennis Robinon, you shure like to hide behind the scenes! I suggest you pull your head out of you ass and contact me directly. I can be reached at edbahl6567@gmail.com. Send me an email and I'd be glad to give you my direct cell number. Or, better yet if you live in Colorado we can meet. Personally, I don;t think you have the courage to face me directly after all the BS you've written about Dennis Robinson and me.
HA!
Grow up Ed! We are not in high school. All I ever wanted was to see you all go to jail but of course that never happened. Unless you have $1800 cash for the paycheck of mine that bounced forget it. I will not play your childish game of "I'll call you out, you call me out1" I am a better person than that, and if what I am saying isn't true, why are you freaking out? It has been 4 years so I doubt you have the money. It put my family out when that happened but that is neither here nor there. You and Dennis should have been there for the people through all of this but your weren't, you all ran. I went to the news to investigate and low and behold they couldn't find you, Dennis or George. Everyone was ditching and hiding, I wanted everyone exposed. In addition, I have several family members on Police department so don't screw with me. You will all get yours one day, I believe that. You cannot hurt people and expect to get away with it. I once worked with a very mean man, I mean he was horrible; well his baby son ended up with cancer. He lived thank goodness but that goes to show you, you treat people like crap and it will come back on you. Just be careful how you treat the rest of the people that come into your lives from here until the day you die. I wish you the best and I hope you can find it in your own heart to forgive yourself for the pain you have inflicted on others and try to be a good person. Farewell and thank you for putting at rest everything I know in my heart to be true.
Ingram III
I have no idea who Ed and Dennis are and wish to make no comment about them, but Ingram is a different story. Losing $1800 is a big hit to you personally, but the loses I suffered at the hands of this professional con artist (over 25 years ago) did serve as a life lesson. It has helped me recognize this type of person later on in life. I did not have the ability to search him out on the internet prior to getting burned. I appreciate your efforts to inform the world of the bad characters that are out there.
TexJohn
check of IL SOS Website on Ingram
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/securities/administrative_...
Too bad he was not given
Too bad he was not given prison time for these violations. Fines, don't seem to mean anything to a man who has no assets and no intention of ever paying them.
TexJohn
Why not...
It would seem that someone could get the USAO to take interest in a white collar prosecution. Even though the years of uncharged conduct would be outside of a statute of limitations for the actual charge, the latest ones are not. They could use the uncharged relevant conduct to enhance a conviction for the latest rounds of fraud under the federal sentencing guidelines, I think.
State of Illlinois prohibits Ingram from sellling securities
Here's a link to the Illinois Secreatry of State's order prohibiting Ingram from offering or selling securities in the State of Illinois.
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/securities/administrative_...
Where or where could Georgie be????
Gee no news on our old friend "George W. Ingram III" huh? I see that no one has written since Aug 08 so I was just checking to see if there has been any other news about this con artist. HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
George is in Jail in Texas
Here's his prison status. You can write to him or send him a Christmas card.
SID Number: 03814552
TDCJ Number: 01532559
Name: INGRAM,GEORGE WARREN
Race: W
Sex: M
Age: 60
Maximum Sentence Date: 2010-02-02
Current Facility: DOMINGUEZ
Projected Release Date: 2010-02-02
Parole Eligibility Date: NOT AVAILABLE
Mr. Ingram and his being.
It has been a very interesting reading. I was with George Ingram in the same "pod" in Bexar County Jail. I have much to say about him...; I wish it could be good.
Another One Bites the Dust
I was "done by George" too. I walked away from it in 2005 when he failed at trying to swindle the masses about his ficticious company "Global Intelligence Corporation" and cornered himself into a room at the something-or-rather extensive stay hotel in Englewood, CO. Walked away only about 3 grand in the hole and feeling super fortunate I wasn't in it up to my mortgage like his business lawyer "Sam" or others that surpassed my loss by several 0 digits. What a filthy bastard. I Haven't thought about it in a few years and when I do, I wonder how he can look at that fake Santa Claus face in the mirror. Can he see his own squinty eyes through the mass of fat and falsities? GI the last one on earth to deserve the last anything on earth. Would love to hear more. Is he still locked up, please?
DBG II
you need to come out form behind your code name
Get you Bat out idiot, you check that bounce was signed by Ed Bahl